In a conversation with Jean-Paul Gaster of Clutch, I asked him his thoughts on a music career spanning almost 30 years. "Same 4 dudes. When we started playing shows the intention was just for us and our friends. We wanted to play the best shows that we could play, we wanted to make some cool recordings, and that was pretty much the beginning and the end of it. The idea of making a career of it was not really on our radar at all. and I think that had a lot to do with the bands that we looked up to. These were bands that were not particularly popular bands, they didn’t fill arenas or stadiums. They weren’t even on the radio for that part. Bands like Fugazi, and The Bad Brains and the Melvins and Prong. These were all bands that we looked up to. We were just thrilled that we could even play the 9:30 Club. It’s been a long ride but it’s absolutely thrilling and we are very fortunate to be in the position that we are."